Collision Boundaries on placeables (RESOLVED)

In NWN, placeables meant to act as illusions are often set up in a way that removes collision boundaries by default.

  • Static Placeables: When the Static setting is active, many models inherently lose collision, especially if they were designed to function as visual illusions (like ghost walls or energy barriers).

  • Collision Boundaries: A placeable model might have a collision-free setup in its .mdl file or appearance.2da, allowing creatures to pass through without issue.

Are there any tree placeables anyone knows on the vault where I can get a hold of trees one can walk through or a vfx of trees of different sorts.

I’m working on the spell: Hallucinatory Terrain

Got the spell ready…just need the placeable or vfx

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No. Collision has nothing to do with the static setting. There is a second file with the extension “pwk” which describes the boundaries. Many placeables (such as carpets) don’t have such a file, so a character can walk freely “through” them.

You can have any illusionary tree you want, just rename it (filename and internally) and put it into the hak. Don’t forget to create a 2da entry for the new tree.

Not exactly sure what you mean here…I’m stupid…lol

I depend a lot on chatGPT and guys on the vault for most of this stuff. I just have ideas and try to put them into actual spells.

So, do I need to pull the model out somewhere and rename it and put it into a hak along with a new pwk associated with it? Confused. Or is it just a 2da thing…if so on the appearance or on the placeable 2da? Do you have an example for me?

So, do I need to pull the model out somewhere and rename it and put it into a hak along with a new pwk associated with it? Confused. Or is it just a 2da thing…if so on the appearance or on the placeable 2da?

Something like that, but to make the tree illusionary, omit the pwk-file.

Do you have an example for me?

Not yet. There are a lot of trees in NWN. Pick one.

Tree C, Large

x3_plc_treel012

Example
tree.7z (41.1 KB)

Note: I appended an “i” to the filename. The filename is repeated several times within the file, which I changed too.

Ok I will try this.

I will need a winter tree, fall tree, maybe a sand dune, large rock that covers a PC. etc…it is “terrain”. I’ll eventually put this spell on the radial to choose the type of terrain one wants. Add in the spell (like the illusionary wall spell I uploaded) a save to those who walk by…if detected then the illusion is dispelled. :slight_smile:

Thanks for doing this bud :slight_smile:

Where will I find this tree in the custom palette in the toolset?

nvm…found it. Do I check any box like “plot”?

Thanks dude.

WORKED!!!

Thanks dude.

Now i just need to be able to do this with several tree types and other terrain. [bashfully asks…could you think of some terrain and season trees and do those for me bud]?

Full credit to you on the vault entry :slight_smile:

Hi Mmat,

I was wondering if you could just turn the list below of placeables into placeables that have no collision boundaries so I can finish this spell and release it. Credit goes to you.

All the resref for the placeables I need from the vanilla game listed below:

nw_plc_seashell3

x0_treepine2

x0_largecactus

x0_desertboulde2

tm_pl_stone13b

x2_plc_mushrm_b

tm_pl_bushlg01

tm_pl_crystice01

x0_deadtree

tm_pl_cliffledg1

If you could label as you did the last one all these as “Illusion” so I can pick them out.

You can do this yourself. Here’s a short tutorial:
How to create an alternative object without collision boundaries.zip (1.2 MB)

Thanks Mmat,

Unfortunately the only nwn explorer I could find on the vault was the one below and it is for nwn 1.69. I could not find the models below.

https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/other/tool/nwn-explorer-reborn

You are almost there. This is the link to the most recent version (1.8.3):

Don’t look under download (there is only the old version), look above …

I have absolutely no idea what I’m looking at here in this below:

@Imtherealthing - I feel for you. I have always disliked github and always felt that site is such a mess when you try to find stuff.

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So confusing for us dummies…non tech guys…lol

Yeah, maybe, but I have no trouble downloading stuff from any other site.

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I could get this spell going (got the scripts) just need those placeables listed :frowning:

Oh, now I’m just dumb. @Mmat even marked the link you’re supposed to use, stupid me. Sorry, Mmat. Sometimes you don’t see the forest for the trees.

@Imtherealthing Just download the file nwnexplorer-183.zip